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I know there have been similar topics but…I would like to point out some things that came to my mind during my "active" past two weeks :)

1. new Rings.
I speak just about the Warimas Rings, but I think the same can be applied to the Roimas rings (the Primas and Magimas seems good to me).
IMO the Warimas ring is a little to overpowered.

A new item must not always excel the old Item…a new Item can just add another option or some diversity!
Remember when we had IronBelt and SOS on old maxko…or Minotaur Earrings/ Platinum Earring etc.


Those Items give a choice between more AP or more tanking abilities.

The Warimas is good in that sense, that it gives the raw AP boost option but with its HP and defense / wep defense it just leaves the ROV to far behind - what isnt good IMO.

I suggest to lower the str Bonus and make it 50 instead of 60
Reduce the AC to 80 and the Health Bonus to 20

This way the ROV would not loose all of its value
But the Warimas would still be a first choice for pk and AP


2. Hero Weapons balance.
In this sense of “balanced diversity” I would as well like to see some changes on the Hero Weapons.
Seems all Warriors prefer HAxe atm. Hero Sword is only interesting for for BPs now and the 2H Spear is also not very wanted…
To balance those three.
- I would remove the 5 str and 2 Health bonus from the Axe
- leave the Spear like it is
- add 10 health Bonus to the Sword.
might help the BPs a little...

Its small changes but would help to balance those weapons.


3. Reduce Regeneration and Restauration skills on passion warrior
Passion warrior is a unique option on this server and it is good that titanko has it.
The high AP is a nice option but the restore skills own anyone in vs and therefore I find them very unbalanced.


4. x.mas soul Medal of Event
I hope there will be some option for the players that couldn’t finish the x-mas medal of event quest.
Please don’t leave them with 2900 x-mas souls…:P
Maybe some option to trade normal souls into x-mas souls?
I would also appreciate if the medal of event stays in PUS after x-mas…else the market prices for it will boom.


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1. new Rings.
I speak just about the Warimas Rings, but I think the same can be applied to the Roimas rings (the Primas and Magimas seems good to me).
IMO the Warimas ring is a little to overpowered.

A new item must not always excel the old Item…a new Item can just add another option or some diversity!
Remember when we had IronBelt and SOS on old maxko…or Minotaur Earrings/ Platinum Earring etc.


Those Items give a choice between more AP or more tanking abilities.

The Warimas is good in that sense, that it gives the raw AP boost option but with its HP and defense / wep defense it just leaves the ROV to far behind - what isnt good IMO.

I suggest to lower the str Bonus and make it 50 instead of 60
Reduce the AC to 80 and the Health Bonus to 20

This way the ROV would not loose all of its value
But the Warimas would still be a first choice for pk and AP


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STOP this campaign against warriors in this server, PLEASE. :evil:

Almost all topics here are about warriors. I mean, leave the poor warriors alone.

Rings are good as they are now. We had ROVs for almost 5 or 6 years now and they are BORING as hell. I mean, just vote for them and you will get them. Nothing hard. New rings are really unique. They are only items here that you can edit by your wish. You can make those rings anti rogue, anti warior or mix them. I have 5 def on axe and 5 on arrow. And thats really good, I admire man who tought of that.

Anyway, they are not OP if you consider all things aviable in server.

Lets think this way:

You have 1 csw belt with not so great HP bonus but with great anti def and resistance bonuses. Then you have 2x glory earning with high HP bonus and also great resistance. Then you have Kahless or Medal of Event with hp bonus of 10/15 and great resistance and def bonus. Then you have Valkyries with high def and you can put HP bonus on them as well. Then you have 2x ROV with 35 HP bonus and viola, you have char with ~ 12 000 hp and 2300 def / or more.

And if you put all chars like that you get NEVER ENDING fights because nobody can kill anybody else. High def, a lot od def/resistance bonus and high healt & small AP. I mean, I was in few fights were we were 8vs8 and w/o kills. I mean, we were on TS, they were aswell, and we coudn't kill them any of them. 6wariors + 2 priest. ( One of warriors were you :P . )
I don't say that most of fights are like that but you get situations like that when AP doesn't metter at all. There were some prists that coudn't be killed due to their def and hp.

And then one day we had idea: " Lets make ALL classes stronger" and today we have really fast and dinamic PK. New rings are very good cause they offer great AP on count of low def. And I am always for that. I have 8987 AP on my warrior and most of the time I PK with that gear. I hit hard yes, but if they call me on TS I get down in less then 3 seconds, AND I AM not sorry. I like swift play and fast gameplay. Before, I could just use descent - change to valks and I get heal and viola, I can't die. That was boring. Now, it is not.

About passion warrior, I have one thing to say too:

Stop this campaign against passion warriors please. They are good.
if you don't belive me read upper part of my post. High AP in count of low def. And it's working good. Also their restore skills are pretty good too. Yes they are strong in VS but I mean VS and PK are two different things. Most of VS passion skills are unusable in PK cause you can't focus as much and with few players on your back return to life and regeneration are useless.
I mean, if some class were OP here everyone would play it. And I see CZ pretty balanced with higher number of archers sometimes, but thats normal.

So, my opinion is NO to first and thirdof your suggestion. :)
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About second. Yea I think we can do something about. We will talk about this and make some changes. :)

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And about 4th I agree. Event will be over on 15th of January and if we don't get much players with enough souls we can reduce that number to allow them to take this unique medal. :)

### Sorry for long post but I really must take warriors side in this campaign against them. I mean, I think for example that sins are OP with their drain skills and their strong skills and their ability to hide or run faster then me or their ability to heal themself... or... or... I can go with this list all day. But thats the way this game is. I can't go back in time and find first KO programer and hit his head cause he don't know how to build assassin. He should really learn a lot from Skyrim / ESO programers about assassins. Or maybe any other RPG game. Sins are OP in this game but I can't do anything now about that. I deal with it. I build my passion warrior and go kill them in CZ. And I do it good. :D

Anyway really sorry for long post but I really feel sorry for warriors and I must stand in their defence here.

STOP THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST WARRIORS AND WARIMAS.

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You can argue all you want but the warriors are OP atm, that's pretty clear, PK and VS wise too.


1.: While nobody else got new weapons, they got +350-500 AP thanks to the hero axe - spears.

2.: Anti defenses on the new rings. As a warrior you can just switch from axe to spear or sword or whatever, problem solved. Meanwhile as an Archer / Sin / BP you can't do anything against it [well BP could, but considering the strong BP weapons are all swords, technically they can't rly switch to anything else]

(Sins suffer way more compared to anybody else, due to dual wield penalty)


3.: Warriors are having 7500--->9000 AP now (continously, with a spammable big skill) while using 1x 2-handed weapon ------> no double anti defense penalty.

Causing these kinda dmgs on fully geared, non duffed rogues: (This was with passion build, but still even as a Def warrior [70 or 85 less STR bonus], the dmgs are hella high too).

http://postimg.cc/image/jb5er6rjx/

http://postimg.cc/image/vagwyhx4t/

http://postimg.cc/image/6v8oxfy7x/


That's 1350-->1650 spammable dmgs on them (fully geared, unduffed targets), while i was spiking / bloody beasting / last stabbing ~1200-1300 on these guys with my fully geared rogue (My 3x highest dmging skill was hitting 100-350 less than the warrior's spammable dmgs) thanks to the dual weapon build ---> higher anti defense penalty.

Just go and PK as a warrior with dual wield too, Hero Spear (1 handed) + Chaos Spear (1handed), you will have even more AP than you have with Hero Axe, yet you will hit like 300 less atleast on normal ppl, and don't even look at your dmgs on people with shields, if you hit let's says 1000 on some1 with shield with Hero Axe, you will hit like 500 only with Dual Spear despite having more AP.




Anyway, i don't rly care but saying that warriors aren't OP atm is kinda silly.

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STOP THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST WARRIORS AND WARIMAS.

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I knew that you would disagree with some parts, but you should know that Im usually someone that defends warrior class!
And I think you know it.

So its a bit over the top to call it a "campaign"...when I write my thoughts for the first time after a long time of silence :)

I strongly disagree with your view about the passion warrior regeneration skills.

Passion was meant to be pure AP Boost related.
Its for pk...like a paper warrior build.
And Im fine with that.

But its just annyoing that vses between passion warriors and defense warriors are so unbalanced! And it really must not be like this. Just decrease the restore and things would be balanced.


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GM_Heisenberg wrote:
STOP THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST WARRIORS AND WARIMAS.

:D

I knew that you would disagree with some parts, but you should know that Im usually someone that defends warrior class!
And I think you know it.

So its a bit over the top to call it a "campaign"...when I write my thoughts for the first time after a long time of silence :)

I strongly disagree with your view about the passion warrior regeneration skills.

Passion was meant to be pure AP Boost related.
Its for pk...like a paper warrior build.
And Im fine with that.

But its just annyoing that vses between passion warriors and defense warriors are so unbalanced! And it really must not be like this. Just decrease the restore and things would be balanced.

Totaly agree with that :)

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GM_Heisenberg wrote:
STOP this campaign against warriors in this server, PLEASE. :evil:

Almost all topics here are about warriors. I mean, leave the poor warriors alone.

Rings are good as they are now. We had ROVs for almost 5 or 6 years now and they are BORING as hell. I mean, just vote for them and you will get them. Nothing hard. New rings are really unique. They are only items here that you can edit by your wish. You can make those rings anti rogue, anti warior or mix them. I have 5 def on axe and 5 on arrow. And thats really good, I admire man who tought of that.

Anyway, they are not OP if you consider all things aviable in server.

Lets think this way:

You have 1 csw belt with not so great HP bonus but with great anti def and resistance bonuses. Then you have 2x glory earning with high HP bonus and also great resistance. Then you have Kahless or Medal of Event with hp bonus of 10/15 and great resistance and def bonus. Then you have Valkyries with high def and you can put HP bonus on them as well. Then you have 2x ROV with 35 HP bonus and viola, you have char with ~ 12 000 hp and 2300 def / or more.

And if you put all chars like that you get NEVER ENDING fights because nobody can kill anybody else. High def, a lot od def/resistance bonus and high healt & small AP. I mean, I was in few fights were we were 8vs8 and w/o kills. I mean, we were on TS, they were aswell, and we coudn't kill them any of them. 6wariors + 2 priest. ( One of warriors were you :P . )
I don't say that most of fights are like that but you get situations like that when AP doesn't metter at all. There were some prists that coudn't be killed due to their def and hp.

And then one day we had idea: " Lets make ALL classes stronger" and today we have really fast and dinamic PK. New rings are very good cause they offer great AP on count of low def. And I am always for that. I have 8987 AP on my warrior and most of the time I PK with that gear. I hit hard yes, but if they call me on TS I get down in less then 3 seconds, AND I AM not sorry. I like swift play and fast gameplay. Before, I could just use descent - change to valks and I get heal and viola, I can't die. That was boring. Now, it is not.

About passion warrior, I have one thing to say too:

Stop this campaign against passion warriors please. They are good.
if you don't belive me read upper part of my post. High AP in count of low def. And it's working good. Also their restore skills are pretty good too. Yes they are strong in VS but I mean VS and PK are two different things. Most of VS passion skills are unusable in PK cause you can't focus as much and with few players on your back return to life and regeneration are useless.
I mean, if some class were OP here everyone would play it. And I see CZ pretty balanced with higher number of archers sometimes, but thats normal.

So, my opinion is NO to first and thirdof your suggestion. :)
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About second. Yea I think we can do something about. We will talk about this and make some changes. :)

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And about 4th I agree. Event will be over on 15th of January and if we don't get much players with enough souls we can reduce that number to allow them to take this unique medal. :)

### Sorry for long post but I really must take warriors side in this campaign against them. I mean, I think for example that sins are OP with their drain skills and their strong skills and their ability to hide or run faster then me or their ability to heal themself... or... or... I can go with this list all day. But thats the way this game is. I can't go back in time and find first KO programer and hit his head cause he don't know how to build assassin. He should really learn a lot from Skyrim / ESO programers about assassins. Or maybe any other RPG game. Sins are OP in this game but I can't do anything now about that. I deal with it. I build my passion warrior and go kill them in CZ. And I do it good. :D

Anyway really sorry for long post but I really feel sorry for warriors and I must stand in their defence here.

STOP THIS CAMPAIGN AGAINST WARRIORS AND WARIMAS.

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And thank you for your suggestion we really appreciate your concern about our server and gameplay. :) We will take thins in discuss and make some changes for sure. Let's see others opinion.

I play warrior and I honestly feel like they are way too op, I'm an average skilled player and I can wreck just bout anyone with those rings and the axe. Titanko has never got it, when one class gets op people complain then they make another class op and nerf the others instead of finding a happy medium. The rings were just a scheme to make some quick money imo.


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I play warrior and I honestly feel like they are way too op, I'm an average skilled player and I can wreck just bout anyone with those rings and the axe. Titanko has never got it, when one class gets op people complain then they make another class op and nerf the others instead of finding a happy medium. The rings were just a scheme to make some quick money imo.


IMO there is nothing wrong if Flegy gains some quick money from new Items.
But that doesnt neccessarily mean, that the new Item totally outperforms the old one.
People always want the BEST items...so they would buy it anyway.

But I dont want this topic to be reduced to the Warimas ring theme (point 1).

I really hope for those slight changes on Hero Weapons (point 2).
Really nothing big and can be done quick.

3. the reduced restore on passion skills

4. maybe they can give us an option to exchange 100 normal souls into 50 x-mas souls and vice versa.


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People can make ad many suggestions as they want, maxko is just so behind as a server... there's so many better servers out there it's just hard to keep people interested in the same pk constantly they never mix it up, the staff thinks that np events and stupid shit like that is gunna bring people here.


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