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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012, 02:29 
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U guys can only pk with 2+ parties and kill afk people in town with nova. U want more people afk in cz town to nova or u really want more people active in CZ? xD


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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 13 Aug 2012, 05:39 
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RedBuIl wrote:
U guys can only pk with 2+ parties and kill afk people in town with nova. U want more people afk in cz town to nova or u really want more people active in CZ? xD

maybe u can be a liar. but i like ur ideas..

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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012, 12:35 
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RedBuIl wrote:
More war and event-> more unbalance happen. People have more reason to switch to strong side to farm np.


+1 to that.

And tbh its pretty dissapointing for me that whenever a suggestion appear about CZ its 96% of the times only about MORE, MORE and MORE NPs.

(Same for unbalance, ppl mostly complain becouse they can't leech under Monus etc.)

I played on shitload of priv servers beside Maxko and i can say that w/o any doubt, maxko has 1 of the most active CZ, not to mention that i haven't seen any priv server yet which having ~200-300 online users daily and being more than 2 years old. Most of them having like 40-50 players at the end of the 1st year.... (There are priv servers where CZ is really active for like 1 -2 months after server's opening, but its normal for a new server and those servers usually closes after 5-6 months... While Maxko is up and running fine since 2009.)


Anyway, the main problem here with CZ isn't the lack of events. Events are only temporary solutions (Especially NP events) and on the top of that it mostly dissapoint newcomers / ppl with smaller clans w/o topgear.
[I'm not saying that there shouldn't be events, and i will try to find out some interesting 1 too if theres gonna be a chance for it]

The main problem [Atleast in my opinion] is the "top / bigger" clan's and ppl's (sorry for the next word) pathetic, coward & NP whore playing style in cz which makes smaller groups doesn't wanna pk at all.

-Why?

At a normal server ppl having 1---> ~14 members pk parties. (I'd rather say 1-->8, cuz i barely saw more than 1 party pking together at other servers in cz)
[Speaking about ppl from the same clan whos waiting for eachother to come, before even going to cz. Not about temporary party merges among random parties, and speaking about CZ only, cuz War is an other story, its k that clans etc are working together, since they wanna win the war for their nations]

And like that every1 can enjoy pking.

But here in Maxko (There are always exceptions, i'm not saying that every1 is like that in bigger clans / on the server) this NP whore attitude lead to the following: (Seeing it daily in CZ towns)

4 priests+ 5 warriors+ 5 mages (already 14 ppl...) from the same clan waiting at inn for 30 mins (w/o checking bowl first or even try to pk abit with 3-4 ppl) for backup. And when they finally got like 3 parties, (24 ppl with fll heros...) they start the so called "pk".

Seriously, like this you can't expect 8 ppl parties w/o fll items to be active in cz. When everytime they try to pk, some clan's 24 fll geared ppl chase them till they die...

Fine, it became a freaking long post again and i bet 50% of the ppl won't even bother reading it..... :D

But if you are asking me, yep you can expect some events / good ideas from staff to make CZ active. But its rather depends on Maxko's community if CZ gonna become interesting, or boring.

My suggestion to the players:
(Try to pk with 1 party, [and not like this: 6 priest, 2 warrior], and don't call 20 ppl more after the 1st time you died, and i highly believe that more and more ppl will feel like "yep i wanna pk too" )

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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012, 16:07 
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ISacredGerike wrote:
RedBuIl wrote:
More war and event-> more unbalance happen. People have more reason to switch to strong side to farm np.


My suggestion to the players:
(Try to pk with 1 party, [and not like this: 6 priest, 2 warrior], and don't call 20 ppl more after the 1st time you died, and i highly believe that more and more ppl will feel like "yep i wanna pk too" )

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So what they will do ? I mean, that 20 people.

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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012, 16:37 
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Pk on their own? Istead of keep joining to bigger and bigger groups each time they die.

4x groups with 20-20-20-20 ppl is always more friendly than 1x group with 80 ppl.

But anyway, they can continue it if they want, i don't really care. I can still enjoy duoing, etc even with those conditions.

But i can barely stand that when ppl crying on forums that there isn't newcomers rly, while at the same time, they are keep rushing 0 geared beginners at Draculas 24/7 with 4-5 fll geared sins. And only pking with 2-3 parties together.

(Wanted to link an elder maxko video i saw, but couldn't find it atm. In that vid 2-3 pt of mages from 1 clan, were pking against 5-6 men parties. Seriously, whats the point in that? Do they really enjoy it? I just simply can't understand it sometimes that NP means this much to some ppl. Its like winning a swimming competition as an Adult, against 4-5 years old kids, no challenge at all. But if ppl are enjoying it, then i'm not the 1 to stop their fun. )



Back to topic again: As few ppl already mentioned it, the bad usage of CZ causes the big groups also. (Ppl pking at 3 places: at HB, at OB, at Bowl, which is like 20% of CZ.)

Personally i would be up to make the "PK" zone bigger by placing 1-2 monu outside the Bowl toward DMs etc.

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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012, 17:20 
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I didnt read it all but I dare to reply...

1. MaxKO cz is very active (compared to other privat servers)
One off the best changes on maxko was the increase of NP per kill.
Since that time cz became more and more crowded.

2. Events are always unbalanced. Cause of the different time zones etc...
The Events usually just feed the 24/7 gamers and dont help the people for whom they are intended.

@David - I see your points and say +1 to most...
but...
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When we have 200+ people online. There might be around 100 people in cz.
For 100 people this cz/bowl is pretty small...

Whenever u go out with a small group...you will run into to many 555555 :o
(and since there are lots of Archers around, its realy hard to escape from that)
So what will people do when that happened a few times???

They will wait in town and try to go out with the big Partys or the big Clans...cause they might have the chance to get some kills in those mass battles.
Its not always by intention...that people only go pk when there are 15+ Clanies on.
If a place is very crowded, those grouping processes just happen naturally.


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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 16 Aug 2012, 18:43 
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Well, you know i always agree with you MileS :P

I just meant that many times those kinda ppl i mentioned not even check CZ, just wait hours then go in with 15-20 ppl together. And that is smth i couldn't ever understand, what do they enjoy in raping 4-5 ppl with 20, but well its up to them.


In big gangbangs (60vs60 for ex) its alright that any1 gather 20-25 clannie and try to beat up the other 60 cuz there is a challenge in it and thats just "naturally" as u said. I don't expect that from any1 to fight with 8 ppl against 40.

But thats a fact too, if big clannies want more active CZ / see newcomers there, then a first step could be to stop raiding naebs at Draculas and try not to chase them with 20 ppl everytime they get in. Or do it, but then don't expect tons of active newcomer.


And yep, guess i mentioned it aswell, Maxko (especially if comparing it to it's 3 years) has the MOST active CZ. [Or 1 of the most active, well i haven't played on turk private servers, maybe there is any which is up 3 years ago too, idk...]


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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2012, 20:32 
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So guys im see cz active now because more Event's in cz

but if team maxko try to make 1 more war in week it's good idea

Instead of 2 day war in week can be 3day war in week So Now

will MaxKO be active again it's my idea good.


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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 17 Aug 2012, 21:13 
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No.

When there were more wars, CZ was like empty.....

Ppl logged in only for wars, then went out.
More war, will just decrease the population of CZ thats for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: We NeeD Back active Cz
PostPosted: 18 Aug 2012, 14:53 
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ISacredGerike wrote:
No.

When there were more wars, CZ was like empty.....

Ppl logged in only for wars, then went out.
More war, will just decrease the population of CZ thats for sure.


Why Not it's just 1 more war be in week this problem ?

i see this not Problem bro u mean all can wait wars not

it's not right because if cz active events nps and in week 3day war

will all time play So this war more not problem

We will play pk and war and no one wating just war

i agree with you if war back again every day right will all wait war

So i mean 3day war in week and cz active events it's back maxko again active.


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