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| Author: | Wolv [ 26 Mar 2012, 17:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
So no more people than Akatora wanna help me balance these skills? Akatora, blade of hate 1k damage and 15 s cooldown is too powerfull and will make a warrior better than mage (not bad idea since mage play as warior with staff attack  ). I think less damage and 15 s cooldown or 1 k damage but like 45s to 1 min cooldown. About quake, need to up damage and make a long cooldown, unless it will be used as nova. |
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| Author: | Akatora [ 27 Mar 2012, 00:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
GM_Wolv wrote: So no more people than Akatora wanna help me balance these skills? Akatora, blade of hate 1k damage and 15 s cooldown is too powerfull and will make a warrior better than mage (not bad idea since mage play as warior with staff attack ). I think less damage and 15 s cooldown or 1 k damage but like 45s to 1 min cooldown. About quake, need to up damage and make a long cooldown, unless it will be used as nova. up the cooldown ! if skill does 500 dmg u have no chanse of killing that pesky retard from running away anyhow.. another way of sep deff and passion, dont really wanna say this but.... boost deff skills abit, and move decent/sac to passion tree and add back berserk echo, echo normaly works, but many think there skills should get faster... this is wrong... skills have there cooldowns, attack speed skills helps for R dmg + if fix passion cry echo skill then it really open up mix warriors, since then u can have attack/deff attack/passion or deff/passion biggest downer with cry echo, any db priest who know there skills could fu** u up totaly when he find out u are passion war, how ? wont tell lol edit sorry if just blurr but really sleepy will read throu it tomorrow when wake up
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| Author: | Penny_Lane [ 27 Mar 2012, 14:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
Hi Wolvia, I would like to conribute something but ... the reason I didnt is: I never touched the berserk/Passion skill tree  Guess we are all noobs with that  If you want to make those changes, I will ofc help testing - if you need someone  I personally would like a build with some support/party skills - like battle cry. For a start you could just raise some skills - you already gave good suggestions for this. But I think the changes could be bigger - cause it has to balance the skillpoints that you sacrifice on defense. 05 Gain - +30str (15str give about 170AP = 2.5% more AP - in exchange you loose 2.5% def) 10 Pain killer - change 300HP to 600mana 15 Raise - + 30HP It can lead to some confusion or unbalance when you start to add a new build, I think this cant be done fast and it needs to be tested. btw - Im not sure if Flegy is open for changes now - since he is more focused on expansion. |
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| Author: | Wolv [ 27 Mar 2012, 15:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
Finally a skilled warrior that want to help out with that ! About gain and rise, I will see with Flegy. They need to be up for sure but +30 I dont know. You can already change your warrior from defensive to passion and try all the skills on mob and on pk like I did. You will see that for now a lot of passion skills are useless. You also will see wich ones are interesting to change. I still wanna have some other ideas than mine on what damage and cooldown to give to Blade of Hate and Quake (the most interesting passion skills after self heal). I used quake to find an archer that was running away and tried to hide, I think he was surprised ! 
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| Author: | Akatora [ 27 Mar 2012, 23:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
GM_Wolv wrote: I still wanna have some other ideas than mine on what damage and cooldown to give to Blade of Hate and Quake (the most interesting passion skills after self heal). I used quake to find an archer that was running away and tried to hide, I think he was surprised ! at some servers (myko as one) provoke did the same, donno why most priv servers dont, |
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| Author: | MohawK [ 05 Apr 2012, 20:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
for suggestion +1, warrior could use more variety than now, would make pk more interesting ontopic: i need to ask did u guys change anything about passion skills, cause i just tried it (bad gear like shells, raptor, no uniqs) and it gives me strange results blade of hate and quake does like 3kdmg on scarecrows, and about 700dmg to ppl in arena. nimble wind didnt increase my dex but rather gave me 3k hp/mp. restorations and self heals use more mana, but gives a lot more hp then in description... these are what i noticed also, a lot of skills that are in official usko version are not here, you can compare on this link http://kingofknight.com/skills.php?class=Warrior also long time ago one of the most popular skills in passion was: 20 Outrage Absorbs damage from MP for 10 seconds could be seen in a lot of "famous" videos back then, this one was worth of loosing a bit of def, all other skills were uselless or too high in skill tree to be worth using, until they added passion attack skill and even then ppl didnt like the fact that a lvl 40 priest can cripple you for a long time because of huge cooldown on that skill, therefore there were not many passion warriors. build was great for vsing tho... |
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| Author: | Wolv [ 05 Apr 2012, 22:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
ye mohawk, passion skills are under changing these days and description will be updated once all skills are changed in the way we want. Since we didnt finished to change them yet, feel free to give your suggestions about passion tree, all comments are welcomed. |
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| Author: | MohawK [ 06 Apr 2012, 11:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
well 2 ways are possible 1) full passion, need to add attack skill high in the passion tree (passion/defense). but i would hate it if cooldown on that skill would be long like in usko, and with same limit in usko. if u wanna keep possibility for that skill to be canceled, than i personally wouldnt use that build unless cooldown is reduced 2) few good skills in passion (like outrage, regeneration...) low in the skill tree, to make possible attack/defense/bit-of-passion warriors. me personally wouldnt do this without outrage, i dont think defense loss would be worth it (and i love descent) attack/passion is not possible, unless you add few defense skills (not so good like in def tree ofc) or some skills that would compensate A LOT for def loss... usko passion skill-tree is good example, first need to determine how to actually develop passion skill tree here, then we could maybe even "invent" some skills there |
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| Author: | MyDarkPassenger [ 06 Apr 2012, 12:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
mohawk in usko u can have points in def coz its 83passion 10master 50 or 55defence but the only problem with the build was confusion screws up the whole thing |
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| Author: | MohawK [ 06 Apr 2012, 12:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Warrior passion skills |
Scarlett_Johansson wrote: mohawk in usko u can have points in def coz its 83passion 10master 50 or 55defence but the only problem with the build was confusion screws up the whole thing i know bro, that goes under No.1 of what i said: full passion or passion/def build for that you need attack skill high in passion tree, and i didnt actually whant to mention which debuff skill screws it up  but i would accept it if cooldown on attack skill would be reduced
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