MAXKO Forum :: transformation to archerKO

Anduin wrote:

you can not compare it like this...

you see how low that Archers HP is (3600HP) and how fast he can die.
Also check the warriors dmg (he can almost 1 hit a debuffed target) and his HP (11000HP)

Need to consider all those things if you want to compare.

I think its not good if you keep compare with usko!

Anduin has a point on how USKO and private server can’t be compared. First, your comparing a 21xx server with a 12xx server. If you start follow the balance usko has, the overall balance will be broken, because its not the same HP cap, and there are skills on USKO that private servers dont have, such as blink shot for archer? Archer is most likely the most similar class between usko and private server. But wanna start comparing melee balance. Melee on UsKO has a nova that hit 4k with debuffs. they got an attack power boost skill. Now sins ? Won’t even talk about sins and their Jamadar. BP? BP doesnt exist on usko, its now int bp with dual mace that rulez. Also all curses from krowaz weapons. And mages? where my insantly magic, vampiric fire (3k heal skill), fire armor, true minor resist, mana shield, light shock and much more.

USKO and private servers are 2 complete different games that can’t be compared anymore exept if their both the same version, 21xx

If anduin let me, i’d post a video of a server where archers are too strong, its breaking the whole « pk » fun. But I think it’d pass for advertisment.

Author:	TraineR [ 09 Jan 2018, 05:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
NobraN wrote: TraineR wrote: as u said , a good archer can kill any class but other good class can't do the same(except same rare case). and how a elemental ring could b better than roimas ? and archers are good also from ranged attack. a archy can kill a lower defence classes with 4-5skills. remeber the day when u, coolhardy n imbrooken was killing lower defence classes in 2-3 sec in front of adream.? and for u we left the adream. where is the balance. ? Also a good bp and sin can beat all. Elemantral rings only good for 3/5 combo , roimas for the rest... You giving example but think about 3x good sin or 3x good bp.. They can destroy the CZ or Ardream. u cant compare mele class with range. 3x archer destroying everything in close even with 40m far.. thats the point. there is many archers in server like coolHardy,imrjulio2,many more, but i never seen them to cry with archer skill. they play awsome with archer all time.. but u guys don't know play with other classes, only thinks archers r weak.. when u changing something in game u have to think its over all effect on whole game.. u can't change any stat to satisfy particular player or class. try to play with assassin or warrior or other class then u will understand.. what r u doing..

Author:	NobraN [ 09 Jan 2018, 06:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
Well, we playing other classes sometimes. We made small mage parties with 3-4 mage and 1 priest.. We were able to destroy cz. Mages can hit to far more than archers. Check the deadly fire, fantasy meteor and flame 70 level skill.. Coolhardy amd julio plays sin as main character. I'm playing mage and warrior sometimes. So don't worry we are aware of other classes as well. Elementral rings useful for farm actually, they are not really useful for pk and vs. But if you are switching rings time to time it can be useful. So use imirs when you go to close combat, use roimas rings when you need to run, lure etc or attack from far.

Author:	TraineR [ 09 Jan 2018, 07:12 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
nope nobran with other class never seen .. sorry. only 2ppl in this server thinks archy weak 1.nobran and 2. prince.. archers were op already then what's the point to make farmable elemental rings more powerful ? in this server defense doesn't means a lot against attack power. thats why anduin has made a passion warrior and assassin like this.. but increasing more ap to range attacker archers is pointless.. no more arguments.. nobran make ur char to assassin or warrior for 7days,we r going to change class to archer. lets see ..

Author:	wolve [ 09 Jan 2018, 09:24 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
agreed with nobran.. but i dont have space in inventry :D

Author:	TraineR [ 09 Jan 2018, 09:27 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
no more comments.. u both guys if u have guts, play with other class for 7days only.. then we will talk about it..

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Author:	Anduin [ 09 Jan 2018, 10:12 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
kinda funny this comes up now after the 8 Pages long "Archer is to weak" discussion in Lobby section But its good to see different opinions! Just wanna say 1 thing about the rings: Imir, Shio, Flame rings original value always was 75 elemtal dmg. I think we changed Imir like 2 years ago (dont remember exactly...) to 50. Nobran asked me (he didnt force me )some weeks ago about it. And he got a point! C Bow had an advantage over Tier Bow with 5/3 combo because of the Flame Rings 75dmg. So its better to give Shio, Imir and Flame ring the same dmg. Since I was aware of its power in 5/3 combo I took away the 12 health bonus on those rings and made them all 70 elemental dmg. If someone wants high AP = he has to sacrifice some tankability Same with Paper Mages, BPs or passion warriors... After the looooooong topic and speaking with the team, we decided to bring back the rings to 75 (just 5 more ^^) but to leave the health bonus off. In fact those rings are "nerfed" a little compared to their original values. Archer class and Mage class are always hardest to balance. Cause if you have many of those far/ AOE attackers, it can destroy all other melee pk. Thats why we need to watch those 2 classes closely. Like I said above. Always good to get different views and opinions!

Author:	NobraN [ 09 Jan 2018, 14:48 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
https://youtu.be/3IQYStX5k-Q?t=3m29s Check archer demages on usko....

Author:	Anduin [ 09 Jan 2018, 16:42 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
you can not compare it like this... you see how low that Archers HP is (3600HP) and how fast he can die. Also check the warriors dmg (he can almost 1 hit a debuffed target) and his HP (11000HP) Need to consider all those things if you want to compare. I think its not good if you keep compare with usko!

Author:	TheGreatEvil [ 10 Jan 2018, 05:32 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
Anduin wrote: you can not compare it like this... you see how low that Archers HP is (3600HP) and how fast he can die. Also check the warriors dmg (he can almost 1 hit a debuffed target) and his HP (11000HP) Need to consider all those things if you want to compare. I think its not good if you keep compare with usko! Anduin has a point on how USKO and private server can’t be compared. First, your comparing a 21xx server with a 12xx server. If you start follow the balance usko has, the overall balance will be broken, because its not the same HP cap, and there are skills on USKO that private servers dont have, such as blink shot for archer? Archer is most likely the most similar class between usko and private server. But wanna start comparing melee balance. Melee on UsKO has a nova that hit 4k with debuffs. they got an attack power boost skill. Now sins ? Won’t even talk about sins and their Jamadar. BP? BP doesnt exist on usko, its now int bp with dual mace that rulez. Also all curses from krowaz weapons. And mages? where my insantly magic, vampiric fire (3k heal skill), fire armor, true minor resist, mana shield, light shock and much more. USKO and private servers are 2 complete different games that can’t be compared anymore exept if their both the same version, 21xx If anduin let me, i’d post a video of a server where archers are too strong, its breaking the whole « pk » fun. But I think it’d pass for advertisment.

Author:	NobraN [ 10 Jan 2018, 06:21 ]
Post subject:	Re: transformation to archerKO
TheGreatEvil wrote: Anduin wrote: you can not compare it like this... you see how low that Archers HP is (3600HP) and how fast he can die. Also check the warriors dmg (he can almost 1 hit a debuffed target) and his HP (11000HP) Need to consider all those things if you want to compare. I think its not good if you keep compare with usko! Anduin has a point on how USKO and private server can’t be compared. First, your comparing a 21xx server with a 12xx server. If you start follow the balance usko has, the overall balance will be broken, because its not the same HP cap, and there are skills on USKO that private servers dont have, such as blink shot for archer? Archer is most likely the most similar class between usko and private server. But wanna start comparing melee balance. Melee on UsKO has a nova that hit 4k with debuffs. they got an attack power boost skill. Now sins ? Won’t even talk about sins and their Jamadar. BP? BP doesnt exist on usko, its now int bp with dual mace that rulez. Also all curses from krowaz weapons. And mages? where my insantly magic, vampiric fire (3k heal skill), fire armor, true minor resist, mana shield, light shock and much more. USKO and private servers are 2 complete different games that can’t be compared anymore exept if their both the same version, 21xx If anduin let me, i’d post a video of a server where archers are too strong, its breaking the whole « pk » fun. But I think it’d pass for advertisment. You're right but i wanted to show that how effective archer class in pk. If these players who cries abot archer class a lot here play on usko they wouldn't go to pk zones... They're complaining about styx but there's no problem with styx on usko even they've less mana than here...

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