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PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 09:04 
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This was a bit confusing to me.
I need to have premium for my monster summons to count for achievement? Or I need to have premium just to claim the prize? I never cared for premium, but now I need to have it all the time?

Also you nerfed the prizes? Why? To me it seems more like a way to get people to spend money not a "problem with achievement abusers" Some of the achievements that take like a year to complete only give 100 kc? I think the prizes were fine the way they were.

I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

And really? Only royal? normal premium wont work?
This is a money-grabbing update, which is always bad taste.

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PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 14:21 
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PostPosted: 28 Aug 2018, 20:13 
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TheDevil wrote:
This was a bit confusing to me.
I need to have premium for my monster summons to count for achievement? Or I need to have premium just to claim the prize? I never cared for premium, but now I need to have it all the time?
from what I understood...you need to have it to make the achievement count work.

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Also you nerfed the prizes? Why? To me it seems more like a way to get people to spend money not a "problem with achievement abusers" Some of the achievements that take like a year to complete only give 100 kc? I think the prizes were fine the way they were.
Even after the nerf its still 3675KC that we give away!

And ofc this is meant to be a "long term" thing.
If users would make 2k KC in a month...Flegy could close the server :shock:
The KC rewards are more like a bonus.
You play the server...you finish some achievements over time and after a while you find that you gather some amount of KC from this.
This is how its meant to be.

It should NOT be the primary goal of pk/farm/events to finish achievements!

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I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing for np whores and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

I thought about that but those quests are also for new users (easy summon+spin wheel). Therefore im not sure if a 50k NP requirement would be the way to go.

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I always found premium a useless thing
Thats another reason why we want to add something to the Premium.

Its not meant to be a money-grabbing update!

If person A gifts person B 3075 KC rewards for free playing on his privat server and for another 600KC he asks for a Royal Prem...but person B blame person A for this.

Which one of them would you call greedy? ;)

btw: you can even get a free royal prem from the "king slayer" achievement

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I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

I thought about that but those quests are also for new users (easy summon+spin wheel). Therefore im not sure if a 50k NP requirement would be the way to go.



I think 50k is fine because: You can collect vouchers until you have 50k np. Which is like one week. You are not supposed to ks crystal 50 times on your 1st day :P

Also i think its not a problem for monster summon. Realistically you will complete monster summon achieve in about a year unless you buy staffs. So having to get 50k to start it is not a problem. (i have played 3 months and my monster summon is 5/30 16/50 During that time i have made around 900k np)

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I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

+1 and put the royal premiun in the system vote in 200 vp and change all the useless crap and keep only some good items


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TheDevil wrote:
I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

+1 and put the royal premiun in the system vote in 200 vp and change all the useless crap and keep only some good items


Adding on vote system will again allow abusers to use spin voucher.


I know you guys want to finish all achievements but some cannot be without premium, it makes premium more valued.

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Anduin wrote:
TheDevil wrote:
This was a bit confusing to me.
I need to have premium for my monster summons to count for achievement? Or I need to have premium just to claim the prize? I never cared for premium, but now I need to have it all the time?
from what I understood...you need to have it to make the achievement count work.

TheDevil wrote:
Also you nerfed the prizes? Why? To me it seems more like a way to get people to spend money not a "problem with achievement abusers" Some of the achievements that take like a year to complete only give 100 kc? I think the prizes were fine the way they were.
Even after the nerf its still 3675KC that we give away!

And ofc this is meant to be a "long term" thing.
If users would make 2k KC in a month...Flegy could close the server :shock:
The KC rewards are more like a bonus.
You play the server...you finish some achievements over time and after a while you find that you gather some amount of KC from this.
This is how its meant to be.

It should NOT be the primary goal of pk/farm/events to finish achievements!

TheDevil wrote:
I can see the problem of people making new accs for lucky spin. How about add like 50k np requirement instead?. I always found premium a useless thing for np whores and i don't feel like wasting money on it just because i do monster summon once a week.

I thought about that but those quests are also for new users (easy summon+spin wheel). Therefore im not sure if a 50k NP requirement would be the way to go.

TheDevil wrote:
I always found premium a useless thing
Thats another reason why we want to add something to the Premium.

Its not meant to be a money-grabbing update!

If person A gifts person B 3075 KC rewards for free playing on his privat server and for another 600KC he asks for a Royal Prem...but person B blame person A for this.

Which one of them would you call greedy? ;)

btw: you can even get a free royal prem from the "king slayer" achievement




in my opinion I think that only should be given as a reward for completing the archives the kc necessary to acquire jewelry +2 in pus and the titan ring with a set valk, the rest is not necessary and lends to bounce these rewards.


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