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 Post subject: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 17:07 
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Well, here is one little sugestion to make a scan for ROVs to see how
many are there
accsuly on server, and then if you can, check with vote
points. (If numbers is all right, then it is ok, but If it's not, then we
have a problem).

Why? Cause, I think there is to manny ROVs on server, and all this trading for ROV thing is RIDICULOUS!!!
All things are treadebly for ROVs, and looks like everybody have 10-15 of them.
So, I think that this is not all right. 50xROV = Hero set ?!


And another problem! If someone has quited server 1-2 years ago
(full geared, full Darkness and Tier,), and come back now (like me), that player can't do anything with that items,
cause now is worthless and useless, and ,
ofcorse, he cant trade them for anything. :x :!:

Maybe this is stupid suggestion (for someone), but please, check it out.

All best! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 17:36 
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there are so many rovs because ppls have created several accounts and spend about half an hour 2 times /day to vote.Now lets see...1 person with 10-15 accounts or more,get 10-15 rovs from a shot,boom.

Why is not implemented something against this?It's easy to do that but not profitable.
The answer is easy: marketing.more accounts means more votes,more votes means more publicity what means again...more players.More players means more donators,wich once again means...money. If 1 of 10 players become a donator, its not perfect but good enough,even if the percent is higher.Voila! there's ure answer. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 19:56 
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Yea, I do understand that, but tradeing inside server is bad.
And I dont belive that all ppls on server have a 10-15 acc,
cause that IS MUCH, and still, ROV=220 VP. (45 days of voting)

I know that they have a lot of work to do around expansion,
but still, I think that there is a lot of ppls that
got their set of ROVs on NO-VOTING way.

2nd and I think most important is:

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16. Every user can only vote on 2 accounts from the same IP.


What about that!? :oops: :?

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 20:07 
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well how else did they get ROVs if not thru voting system? unless youre thinking about some dupe method or corrupt GMs or whatnot, there is no other way to get ROVs other than vote points (occasionally you can get from vs events or stuff like that)...


Naissus wrote:


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16. Every user can only vote on 2 accounts from the same IP.


What about that!? :oops: :?


About that...ye, take a close look - "same IP". when you connect to Internet it is most likely that you will have dynamic IP address which means every time u connect your IP address will change. So yes, it can be voted on multiple accounts, and dont underestimate human motivation ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 20:22 
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ip address method is flawed like suggested- dynamic ip's and remember that if you go to a game club to play on maxko you will all have the same ip's (on multiple different accounts, depending on how many play at the place)

as for corrupt gm's no mob spawns the ROV. so only a Dedi GM has the power to add it to a user.

so problem is we have no true evidence to say that people really have 15 accounts, because it could be 15 different people.

so its not simple otherwise it would be fixed.

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 21:24 
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I dont think we should even think about dedi's GM corruption since this is NOT usko but lets look forward to multiple accounts and lets get the fact of proxy changer.
So yes,multiple accounts is reliable and the only way IMO for those ROVs in the market.

And for the final now,fixing the vote system bug with a couple of lines in the website script,could insegnifiantly reduce the amount of vote items from the market.
I cant just post the bug but i will explain to a dedi gm in a pm if necesary.
This just in case they didnt saw it yet.

The reason for not posting the bugg its not to gain an advantage and that ca n be anytime verified,but its to dont give a reason to all the kids playing to abuse of it.

If any dedi gm,developers or flegy pm me on that matter,i will be happy to respon and explain but thats not applying for the rest of users/members.

I also never said "all" ppls have 15 accounts,but i leave to understand "some" ppls have 10-15 or more accounts.Next time pls dont point a finger to me if i didnt do what u sugest i did.I just hate that and i dont think im the only one.

Good game and have fun in whatever u do guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 21:30 
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There is solution, it is not so good, but it maybe can fix problem.
1 account = 7x ROVs
6 for 3 chars (2 for each) and one ROV for trade or other things.


One day before, I asked how many for one part of hero armor,
and I get answer "around 9-10 ROVs" ... !?
So, for whole set - 45-50 ROVs.
And, how they from 10 accs get all ROVs on one?!
And 2x ROV = DF set... !? What is with that?!
45 ROVs= 22 DF sets +10 ... :o :shock:

And Tier and Darkness items are now worthless. :oops:
I am afraid to ask how many for one ROV, cause I maybe get answer
3 ROVs for 1 :o
Trading inside game is RIDICULOS!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 21:43 
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Naissus,do we use cars and airplains?
Yes,we do. Why dont just use horses or maybe bulls like our ancestors?
Because ppls addapting and its the same with maxko or any other game who lest in time.
Thats why tier items are almoust worthless and hero items will have the same faith once the game evolving and new,better items will take their place.

About ure method for Rovs,its not ok.
Lets imagine u want to buy a hero part.
What can u posibly offer if not some wanted items,hard to get than others?
Imo any players can have as many items want since are legitly,no dupes,bugs abusing,injection,editing or any other unfair way.

Sry for very bad typing,im replaying with that sucking little keyboard from mobile phone.

Good game and much fun

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 22:13 
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It is ok, we are here to debate, not to attack eachother. :)

I just say, that it is very hard to trade, if you dont have
ROVs, and it seems like that MOST of players have
10++ ROVs, and difficult for me to believe that all
that rings are from voting.
I think that scan will do no harm to honored and good players,
but can find if someone added ROVs on some non-fair way.

As rule says: Only 2 acc from one IP (that rule was written in days when most
ppls on server had one constant IP, on beging, but now is different
cause dynamic IP). But 10 acc for voting is TO MUCH!

Game is good, the best, but trading this days is not so good. :)
PKing has improved, new items and all other things are better, but trading... :(

All best. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Make Ring of Vote scan
PostPosted: 15 Jul 2012, 22:25 
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Agree with ya,but for ex i dont have even 1 extra rov so that scan will definetly dont affect any legitimate player.
As for trades,yes it sucks but u have to see also the good part of this.
I know a few ppls who made full hero sets and hero weapons in just a month of playing,from trades. Wonder how? Trading bullshiets to better bullshiets,buying and selling.
Ofc u need time and patience for that and a good sense of market speculation.
If helps u somehow,ill give u a tip: now,before expansion is a good time for that market sense :d

Im out for the night now,so...
Good game and have fun.

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