Okay, I'm a mage. I have... 1541 AC and 11.6k HP (fully geared)
How is it possible that i'm allowed to vs archer without moving?

I been playing in ALOT of server, lvl 70 cap, lvl 72 cap, lvl 80 cap.
The last server I played were a lvl 70 cap, and archer were hitting the same then what they hit here.. about 285-315 per arrows.

What I suggest, higher the % damage of arrow shower and multiple arrows by 1.4x-1.5x both of them.

Here...

http://i61.tinypic.com/1177orb.png

okay, he's a GG archer. He minor threw combos.
I'm a GG mage. I'm a paper mage, so, normally he's suppose to DESTROY me. right? How comes i win against these GG archer with like 4-5k hp left? weird.

Hope you GMs will do something about it, that's nonsence

Regards, TheGreatEvil

Hopefully hell no lol.

Do you realize what are you talking about? Their current shower is like 1100--> 1500 dmgs already. if you would increase it, that would make it like 1500-->2000+ dmgs for 1x arrow shower. No ty, a sin's spike hardly reaches 1k.....

Archers are fine in vs already.

ur kidding me? A sin spike hardly hit 1k? lol. you must be kidding. a sin spike hit me for fkin 2.8-3.1k. lol

I think u dont know that archer is not suposable to be vsable without sliding.

I think im gonna take a picture,of 4 sin skills. 4 sin skills get me down to 3.5k hp. lol. thats like... 8k damage in 4 skills?

Sins's spike on a normal char w/o cp is about 1000.
Not talking about DMGs on a paper mage (no offence but the MP armors build is shitty , the int armors are WAAAY better) after Armor cancel while they has like 1100 def.

Even with CP and AC a sin's dmg is like 2k MAX and that's really the top of it, but rather lower, against normal chars in a vs and that's only for a few sec, then they are back to 3 skills with around 1k dmgs and rest useless 200 dmgs skills for like 10 seconds straight.

As for archers, don't tell me with a SPAMMABLE 1300 + 800 dmgs even on warriors, and it can be more on classes with less def continously can't vs already insanely good in a tanky vs. Especially if they are minoring + hp potting.

I'm not a good archer at all if it comes to vs since that is the class i played the least so far but i could kill the best sins as archer kinda easily.
Also got a passion warrior, cuz of it's build is only for VS, but it's a beast there. I'm basicly able to almost Full HP any top sin or normal warriors in vs with that (once again, it's kinda useless it's pk since it has only 60 on attack) while an archer got me down to like 3k hp on that or even more, and i used S in that vs too.

So archers are beasts already as soon as they are tanking some1. adding 40-50% to their current dmgs would make it around 1,5--> 2k dmgs with a single arrow shower as i said earlier (a spammable skill) on every1 w/o duff, cmon if you think that's normal you must be kidding.

Well, thanks for telling you opinion. I respect it entirely, just from the tons of server I played, most of the, the only way to kill an archer were s combo or sliding.
But there 2 different setup that archer can be made, able to tank in a vs(opponent), or need to slide/s combo to win. and when most archer need to use ctrl/macro/pedal to minor, well that makes it pretty hard to play.

and btw, mp armor isnt shit, I tried them both, hp/int and the mp armor is far better, got like 3k more hp, but like 300 less ac.

play priests against a full party of archers with all of them aiming you then talk
p p p lease

lets say:
1. a party of any class can kill any priest in the game easily.
2. I'm not talking bout dark persuer
3. run nd heal and everythimg should be fine.

I hardly doubt 3 archer can kill a good priest who's running before healing.

ps. I'm not well placed to speak bout priest, cause i barely play priest here, just telling from what I know.

I've got 9700 hp with chaos staff and like 10100 with hero staff + pholus.


The HP diff between the 2 build is 126 hp stats or 125 (depends on if they have 1 stat on str for CS or not) which is roughly 2000, 2020 max HP+ for the MP build.

While the defense difference is 450, not to mention the ~14000 mana with the int build, which is really useful in vs.

But use whatever you want.



Back to the topic, it rly shouldn't been increased cuz of the mentioned reasons above and on the top of that there is a trick that increases ppl's dmg and it's by far the most effective for the archer's 5+3 dmgs.

Ye its sad,i hit warriors 600-900 damage is so sad...all class here is op...
if assasin open cansel armor cp archer go to 3k hp if u dont use any macro/pedal u have no chance,mage staff range is annoying+hit so hard,passion warrior is op and bp ofc cant go down.!