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 Post subject: Re: If u are not Donator You have To Leave
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 06:49 
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Many people complain and say its to hard for non donators.
So Im still thinking about small changes to balance things.

Ofc there are problems and like everyone knows - that is reading forums - we admit those mistakes. Like the PUS having full gear from the first day.

We already changed some things. Made the farm easier, nerfed some Items.
Made FT easier. BDW earring only takes 10 medals now. Gave Quests for +10 Darkness Weapons, have tempest NPC Quests etc..

I guess people are just to used to have full gear on titanko
or they just played our pk server and arent used to farm


If you want a full pk server with no farm, than this is not the place.
If you can handle some easy/medium farm and if you can deal with the fact that there are babashoppers around, you should give it a try!

@MarCoOo: I can assure you that me (and the other GMs/ FMs) dont have the slightest interest in your money. Cause we dont get money for what we do here anyway.
We have some passion for the game and the community.
And my biggest reward is to meet friendly people in game and forums :!:

@Great Evil it isnt more pay2win than before. But ofc people feel more like this, since they have to farm again ;)

@Lazaros_19 We spoke about your topic in staff chat.
TBH we found your suggestion unclear - maybe you can explain a bit more?

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I find it amazing to see good geared non donators (they even have Hero set) feeling outgeard just because they are missing Titan rings ( Roimas e.G:). Those +400HP and +10 AC are not the reason why someone in cz will kill you with 3-4 hits or not :P

Everyone dies much faster now!
Even full geared int Priests die vs 3 attackers.

On old titanko people complained about chars beeing to tanky.
So we brought everything down and pk goes much faster now. People die faster.
This is particularly harder for the Priests.

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 Post subject: Re: If u are not Donator You have To Leave
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 08:43 
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@Great Evil it isnt more pay2win than before. But ofc people feel more like this, since they have to farm again ;)


Obviously, you dont get what pay2win means. it means the fact that someone who have access to money can get gear in 3-4 minutes, when its supose to take 1-2 months to get the gear as a non-donator... And it is the case. Every places to get good gear on the new titan, is related somehow to pk. CSW belt, its a full pk event to win. BDW, its a full pk event. Hero, its in cz, its a full pk zone. And max points? gained from killing someone.

When everyone in pk have better gear then you, its not even fun to go and try to get those items. Witch is the reason Titan went to PK patch in the past, because newcommers has no chance to get the ace gear to be able to fight against the most geared players and to gain the best gear.

Titan was a pay2win server before the pk patch, after the pk patch get released, the server growd it was crazy, there was finally players to pk with, the ammount of players went up to 120-150, Then the ddos happened, and for some reason, it looks like none of the damn administrator/developper team knows how to counter ddos, since that second MaxKO came out, only reasons why the server keep dying was those ddos. So far, server get ddosed about 3 times. and all 3 times, the server went down for 2 months and more. And you guys keep saying it would just be an update, or down for 2-3 days.

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@ GreatEvil
removed the last part in your post! I guess you know why ;)

I see that point and I even mentioned it in my post above!
Cant turn back that wheel...just can try to balance things now.

Let me point out that our monthly (Dragon) NP holder
has pretty much standard (non donator) gear :!:

http://titan.maxko.org/?page=char&id=wendolyna

I sometimes have the feel that you havent even tried the server before you start the complaints.
You can pk and gain maxpoints on this server if you just invest 1 day of farm!

Ofc this will work better with a BP, warrior or a skilled Rogue,
than with a Mage or int Priest... but thats nothing new.

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topic title! edited by FM_Anduin 18.July 2016 12:24
topic title "you have to leave" I find very suggestive/ destructive.
Lets use this topic to have an open/ constructive discussion.
Pure complaints like "titanko RIP" "you have to leave" etc. dont help anyone.

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 Post subject: Re: Donators are OP?
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 13:13 
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Subject: Value For Money (Poll)

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Subject: Value For Money

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Attetion:The Following suggestion will not be liked by most people and my cause flame war. A mini amount of people may agree.



Suggestion:Value for Money suggestion is related to PUS and InGame Market. Donators pay KC(Real Cash) to purchase items like weapons and armor. InGame Players farm items and give a handfull amount of items just to get one part of that Great Item
So My suggestion is to balance this difference. Make the Farming more Difficult (like full party needed not 1 priest 1 warrior and 1 assasin do the job) And make the Ingame Market almost like Pus Prices(Ingame Value 200/Pus Value 300 p.e) That way Donators dont waste their money and Ingame Players dont have to hunt for ever for that one good item needed!



To make it explainable TSword has 250 KC in pus. Ingame is farmable +3 and upgradable. you spend cash and time to farm and grade it. the graded tsword values from 1/3 to 2/3 of thepus price. for example the graded tsword would value for 100 - 175 KCps (knight cash points) so when you get 3 TSwords +10 you earn from 300 to 525 (it depends on how hard is to get the item and how lucky were u to grade it to +10) (+10 with trina has lower value)

so in total u have 3 normal tswords +10 graded but one is with trina.. so lets say you earned a total of 400 KCps you have a Npc that you trade it for something like Rovs or Hero part ect. Items that can be farmed ingame and they are avainable in PUS too. so if you cant or you dont want to donate your time and effort ingame doesnt lose its value..



also earning Manner points for giving items to users registered past 30 days. 2 points per item.. (12-16 items max... [ a full char])

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 Post subject: Re: If u are not Donator You have To Leave
PostPosted: 18 Jul 2016, 14:50 
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TheGreatEvil wrote:
Every places to get good gear on the new titan, is related somehow to pk. CSW belt, its a full pk event to win. BDW, its a full pk event. Hero, its in cz, its a full pk zone. And max points? gained from killing someone.

When everyone in pk have better gear then you, its not even fun to go and try to get those items. Witch is the reason Titan went to PK patch in the past, because newcommers has no chance to get the ace gear to be able to fight against the most geared players and to gain the best gear.



Totally agree with that part.. open krowaz and let ppl farm +3 accessories not +1 plus open a zone that ppl can farm csw and bdw with some kind of clan pt quest..

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 Post subject: Re: Donators are OP?
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Any Way u will change game or not i give all item i collect to players
why u do that?! why u leaved game?!
cus i fell shit when i pk that all...
about farm! can u please tell me how i can kill red dogs for hero parts (rate drop 3%) in cz and any one if give me 3 or 4 hit i die ?
how i can access ft and no one add me in party cus u dont have item u will die
how bdw funny and all party marco please stay in town u will get 2 hit we wont lose
i ask many time for clan all say get gear man get gear man
lol how i can farm alone ?!
there no one will help u
only way to pking join clan donat
how the fu** is life in titan?
good luck to re Life Titan..


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Hi MarCoOo

I know that feeling - had that on several farm servers before.
And I agree that the game might seem hard and frustrating if you dont find people to farm/ pk with.
I spend quite some time with helping people to farm, but I guess we havent met so far. You should really try to find 2-3 players/ friends to farm with. Solo this game is no fun.

@Lazaros
It is possible to farm +3 rings within 2 days with a BP. So I dont see a point to add +3 rings to Krowaz. ( I have tried it myself with Mino, Alino, Lucio).

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FM_Anduin wrote:
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It is possible to farm +3 rings within 2 days with a BP. So I dont see a point to add +3 rings to Krowaz. ( I have tried it myself with Mino, Alino, Lucio).


Not every1 has a BP thought and most people play buffer healer.. Its rare to see a good bp

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@ GreatEvil
removed the last part in your post! I guess you know why ;)

I see that point and I even mentioned it in my post above!
Cant turn back that wheel...just can try to balance things now.

Let me point out that our monthly (Dragon) NP holder
has pretty much standard (non donator) gear :!:

http://titan.maxko.org/?page=char&id=wendolyna

I sometimes have the feel that you havent even tried the server before you start the complaints.
You can pk and gain maxpoints on this server if you just invest 1 day of farm!

Ofc this will work better with a BP, warrior or a skilled Rogue,
than with a Mage or int Priest... but thats nothing new.

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topic title! edited by FM_Anduin 18.July 2016 12:24
topic title "you have to leave" I find very suggestive/ destructive.
Lets use this topic to have an open/ constructive discussion.
Pure complaints like "titanko RIP" "you have to leave" etc. dont help anyone.


alright, but only way it could seems to balance the things, is once again, providing the average top gear to anyone that would join the server. Else, there's not enought players to make the server a farm one.

if it would be for me.. once again, i would say, give hero/tier/darkness +10/csw belt +0/ ft neck/rovs/glory earrings +3

And make the Glory earrings upgradeable, obtaining +0 in bdw every 4-5 games won.

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Lazaros_19 wrote:
Subject: Value For Money (Poll)

Lazaros_19 wrote:
Subject: Value For Money

Lazaros_19 wrote:
Attetion:The Following suggestion will not be liked by most people and my cause flame war. A mini amount of people may agree.



Suggestion:Value for Money suggestion is related to PUS and InGame Market. Donators pay KC(Real Cash) to purchase items like weapons and armor. InGame Players farm items and give a handfull amount of items just to get one part of that Great Item
So My suggestion is to balance this difference. Make the Farming more Difficult (like full party needed not 1 priest 1 warrior and 1 assasin do the job) And make the Ingame Market almost like Pus Prices(Ingame Value 200/Pus Value 300 p.e) That way Donators dont waste their money and Ingame Players dont have to hunt for ever for that one good item needed!



To make it explainable TSword has 250 KC in pus. Ingame is farmable +3 and upgradable. you spend cash and time to farm and grade it. the graded tsword values from 1/3 to 2/3 of thepus price. for example the graded tsword would value for 100 - 175 KCps (knight cash points) so when you get 3 TSwords +10 you earn from 300 to 525 (it depends on how hard is to get the item and how lucky were u to grade it to +10) (+10 with trina has lower value)

so in total u have 3 normal tswords +10 graded but one is with trina.. so lets say you earned a total of 400 KCps you have a Npc that you trade it for something like Rovs or Hero part ect. Items that can be farmed ingame and they are avainable in PUS too. so if you cant or you dont want to donate your time and effort ingame doesnt lose its value..



also earning Manner points for giving items to users registered past 30 days. 2 points per item.. (12-16 items max... [ a full char])


Still waiting on a reply on this

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