In this topic : viewtopic.php?f=25&t=23411 We have highlighted a problem in maxko.
All class have different job (archer/sin ; int/bp; mage fire/ice/light) but actually warrior can only play defensive warrior because passion skills are useless.

We may change passion skills soon but I need your opinions about how to change those sills to make them interesting to play especially in pk.
Try to stay close to the initial effect of the skills, and almost only change the values.

Go go go , lets give warrior another job !

well as i was saying in that same topic

Miss out skills that should be there

83 Cry Echo Applicable only when used with Battle Cry. An unfailing attack skill that inflicts 300% damage and 200 additional damage.
Cooldown time: 0.8 seconds (same as hell blade)
( would be nice to see it up same as Hell blade Inflict 300% damage and 350 additional damage with no change of failure. or earth quake just to dream away abit )

70 Berserk Echo Temporarily increase attack speed by 40%.
Cooldown time: 10.1 seconds
Duration: 30 seconds



skills that need alittle tweaking/fix

25 Blade Of Hate Use of a sword to attack an enemy that is far away.
Cooldown time: 5.1 seconds
Scarecrow 85-90dmg (R dmg on scarecrow 620-700)
Give it a plain 1k dmg and 15 sec cooldown

60 Quake A sword skill that attacks all the opponents around you
Cooldown time: 5.1 seconds
Scarecrow 270-300dmg (R dmg on scarecrow 620-700)
Up dmg and change the checker to str instead of MP after all is a warrior skill not mage, and up cooldown time abit

40 Return To Life Exchange 500 MP for 250 HP
Cooldown time: 5.1 seconds.
1-2½sec cooldown and can be use full, rember this is not like minory heal is a self heal.

75 Berserker Increase attack speed by 20% for 20 seconds. However, defense is decreased by 300 during this time.
Cooldown time: 40 seconds
Duration: 30 seconds
Nothing but the cooldown start when press that skill no skill icon pop up no less deff and i assume no 20% attack speed



tho this is what happend last time i whent fishing in this subject http://www.maxko-forum.info/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=22215

This would be a very interesting change because honestly so little people have used passion that I dont even know 3 spells. I would really like to see these skills be changed in a way where warriors could actually play some what of a support class. Like a spell that allows your spells to refresh faster, or maybe even play a priest/warrior paladin build where a warrior can keep sacrifice on other players. Very interesting suggestion.

On passion if add 5point you unlock Gain...all we know Gain give attack but all warriors used scroll str and is ussless ...You can Change Job from Gain or Up his attack!

I have made some tests on scarecrow and at cz and here is what I found :

Passion skills up to 60 points are not really important to change since we will almost never use them because warior need lvl 85 attack. (as defense skills, no warrior use more than sacrifice)

Gain gives 15 str, same as scroll. can be changed to 20 str maybe but not important.

Rise gives 10 hp, so its useless since scroll gives 15. can be changed to 20 hp to be usefull. but not so important.

Pain killer and blaze killer gives som mp by using hp. Not so usefull, the other side like return to life could be better. if cant be changed, just up the amount of Hp and mp because its too low actually.

Nimble wind gives 20 dext. Noone will use that one since warrior need hp or str. maybe change it to 10str+10hp if possible.

Return to life transform mp to hp point so its kinda a self heal with cooldown. Can be usefull if ammount of hp and mp are little bit more and cooldown higher. just make it a heal for live longer when running out of a danger. (long cooldown wont make it too powerfull as a priest heal or minor heal)

Restoration and regeneration (and Hp booster but too high in skills points) . this is like a heal over time. Its really to low actually (250 and 500 hp in like 30 s to 1min less than a pot hp).Need to up speed or amount of hp it gives. Not too much but enough to hep kill some mobs alone (rowaz, darkmare , draculas ..)

And the most important and interesting skills of passion tree are Blade of Hate and Quake.
The first one gives damage to an opponent at distance (like a magic spell or an arrow) it can be interesting if gives valuables damage even wit long cooldown (actually does 80 dmg on screcrow and less than 10 damage at cz !)
The second one inflict area damage like a little nova. Can also be usefull with valuable damage and long cooldown. (atually does 30 damage in cz and 300 on scarecrow)
Those damage have been tested with df set and hero sword so cant be better actually.

Battle cry seems to work fine but too high in skills points.
berserker dont work but too high in skills points too. (would be good to make it 20% more ap for 300 ac less for few seconds)

I just wanna remind that this is another way to play warrior. if you want those skills, you have to add no skills points to defense tree and so lose some ac (250 to 400 depending on gear) and resist and lose descent and sacrifice skills. So it will be a choice to make.

Im waiting comments to help me decide how we can balance those skils to make pasion warrior interesting to play !

Maybe with all this change warrior be overpower...

maybe not !
More seriously, give some explanations on how to make it better and not too overpowered because your comment is really useless...

GM_Wolv if you want people play not only as defensive warriors , you have to give them something what will be simmilar or better to ( Decent and Sacrifice ) none of warriors will leave Decent unless they get something waluable .
I remember the times when Ares and Dies appeared on USKO there were two skills, propably on 25 lvl and 55 lvl in Passion skills , first one tempoararily increase attack speed by 20%, second tempoararily increase attack speed by 40%. Here it is called Berserk Echo.
But all warriors became to use them so they delated those skills ( they were so powerfull ) . If you want warriors to loose their resists , deffence , Decent and Sacrifice , add those two skills but i dont know on what lvl.
You can also increase Quake up to for example 400 dmg , and Blood of Hate up to 500 dmg and think about their cooldown

ofc I wanna make warrior have the choice between 2 type of gameplay.
The warrior in big clan will probably still playing defensive warior because they need descent and sacrifice.
But passion skills can be a choice for other warriors.
I actually try to find what amount of damage and what cooldown we could give to quake and blade of hate to make them competitve with descent and sacrifice.
And I want to imporve the selfheal and passion to be competitive to the ac and resist you have in defensive skills.

Thats why I need players help

Without tempoararily increase attack speed noone will use passion skills .