Hi all...

I traded 1x CSword for 300k nps and 3k max points today. But i don't want to use this item. Because it has no extra bonuses more different then HB +10..

HP: 7239 with HB +10 / 7241 with CSword
MP: 7149 with HB +10 / 6307 with CSword
AP: 3405 with HB +10 / 3470 with CSword
AP: 5459 with HB +10 / 5563 with CSword (Full scrolled <Prayer+Blasting+Enchant Scroll>)

Now you'll ask "if so why did you trade your NPs for this sword?"..

1-) if you have 300k nps and 3k max points and if you click sword on npc u'll directly get your weapon without any opinion with "ARE YOU SURE?"or something else ..

2-) There is not a system to compare a HB with a CS or at least NPC can show you what you will get.. If you want to learn what you get for 300k nps and 3k max points you HAVE TO trade your nps first..

And if you want to hear the real, i got experienced the first one.. i clicked on NPC with a wonder and i got sword by mistake.


Dear staff... My personal opinion is 2 HP 65 AP and -842 MP shouldn't much worth 300k NPs and 3k max points... I want you to take your CSword back and restore my NPs and Max points back..

Thanks and regards...

Honestly, you're 65% right but you should consider that we had many cases similar to yours and we didn't meet any request of any case like that to restore "nps/max points" i'm sorry to say that we can't help you unfortunately, if we helped you, we would help the others too....
another case looks like your mine viewtopic.php?f=96&t=44849

moved your topic into Lobby section.
Actually I might merge it into this one: viewtopic.php?f=111&t=44440

@ Hodor

thats a good research ! ( you should join our team )

I was aware of this when we discussed the stats of C weapons.
thats why we reduced HB AP with the release of C Weapons:
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=44438

Let me point out that the mana comparison would look different on a warrior.
Since Hell Breakers 30 int bonus will be useless in that case.


In the topic you find all the stats from C weapons.
Unfortunately not many people reading the forum announcements...

You are right there should be some "are you sure" checkbox or some link to the topic where people can check the stats. Maybe some text like "please check forum viewtopic.php?f=84&t=44438 for the Chaos weapon stats before you click ok", would help?

Will talk to Flegy about this.

About the stats.

Its not easy to balance the value from colored Tier + Killing Race Gems with the cost of C Weapons.
We want to keep the value of Killing Race and its Gems.
Thats why C Wep should not outgear the colored Tiers, it should just add another option. Since C Wep used to be on the "less AP more HP " side...we went that way.

We are still open for changes.

Things that we could do.
1. Reduce HB AP a little more? Though HB is not easy to get in game.
We might increase KC price on HB a little.

2. Add some int Bonus to C Sword? would make it a good option for BPs.

3. Increase AP on C Wep by 2 ? But than it would just be same like Tier + HP Bonus...what would slightly outgear colored Tiers in vses/pk.

4. Increase stats on C wep and colored Tiers?

My choice would be a lil nerf on HB...since that would be the easiest fix.
Which change would you prefer?

Well..

You say "You are 65% right" and again you say "we didn't meet any request of any case like that".. And you say " i am sorry to say we can't help you" also..

If i'm right (65% right) why are you sorry ?

It's really interesting and hard to understand this scenario...

Is there a problem to solve: Yes
User: Right (65%)
Can staff do it : Yes

Result: Maxko staff prefer to say i'm sorry instead of helping player...


So.. Why are you here ? I think you should help to players who needs help and who is right.. But you prefer to say "i am sorry to say that i can not help you".. So who can help me ? I didn't want your help for a basic issue. I lost 300k nps and 3k max points for a item which is not better then HELL BREAKER.. 300k nps is not so easy for me.. I'm not a koxper, TBL, NPTer, GM also..

I didn't say you that i died yesterday i was about to kill my opponent but i lost my NPs. Please restore my NPs back.

I said i lost my 300k NPs and 3K max points for your system's insufficiency.. And you say we are sorry.. Please think again me and others like me status. This issue should be restored and closed..

Thanks and regards...

OK GM_Rusky..

If there is nothing to do let's think about what Anduin says...

1st opinion; reducing HB AP seems better.. But there should be MP bonus at least much as HB also..

Thanks for your help btw..

You should write the AP when full scrolled with book.
Regarding to your post it is 104 AP difference between HB and CSword.

I checked it now on warrior.
HB AP 5446
CSword 5548
So AP difference on warrior is 102.

I dont want to nerf HB to much, because many people bought it from PUS.
So the nerf on HB might be: -100HP -2AP

And we want to add +20int to the CSword, to make it a good choice for BPs.

We dont want C Weapons to be much better than other weapons...they just should give another option (variety).

My opinion u must add some HP in csowd and also u need to add in cmac some def from dagger Axe sowd and u need to remove HP from Axe and spear and add some ap

Milano what you ask for is actually HERO Weapons

With hight AP and lower HP.

But our intention with Chaos weapons was the opposite!
Slightly lower AP but higher HP.

Chaos weapons always been like this and Chaos Mace never had wep defense.
Therefore it gives +800HP +800MP.

If we add wep def...its just another T Mace with different look.

Excuses me sir I'm not talking about who best I'm talking u guys make choas weapon more expsiven then any weapons in game for nothing actually yellow weapons and green weapon is more good who care about HP or mp for me I play like 3year as priest I bought cmac and I have black Mac for me black is good in pk priest internent about def more then HP I can explain to u guys with damge and test for u cmac or black is better in pk
U guys make cmace stats as Loba hammer and lycaon hammer why I pay 300k NPS and 3000 max point for nothing really u need take break and check what u can do in cmac bcs for me is nothing