From what I see in game Hero weapons seem to have the highest value in the market IN GAME.

But when we look at the gap of Hero weapons to h parts bloody/chaos weapons its kinda huge.

How come?
Chaos/Bloody and Hero parts u can gain by event , lets say like new 3-4 chaos/bloody come up everyday by different events and the gap will be even bigger to the hero weapons if we look further.

Hero Armor : Is the same as valkyrie , I dont get the logic of it in game 1 valk set to be 3 x hero sets or more.( I think it should be chosen by the player which look they like)

Chaos/Bloody - Yet one of the best weapons in game If u compare tho the prize in game with the hero sword / hero bow the gap is so difference.
I am still that hero should have highest prize in game but comparin how the market is runing now Its just crazy.

I would say enough of the free c weapons / bloody / hero parts.

What would be the consequences of it?

Beginners will complain most of it , but I am sure there can be made another quests for begginer and SelfName quest is already also good.

Tier weapons in the other hand have no value at all, Tier shield is second best shield in game, and bloody should not be used by all I guess or at least be a bit more older player in game.

For now what I can see begginers get full geared within one week.

-Valkyries were added like 7 month later than heros + they are only available at PUS. They will not change it at this point since it would be hella unfair toward ppl who already payed alot for them and i agree with it. Hero is the same anyway and farmable at the same time, if you don't like the way you look currently and wanna look fancy in valkyries, pay for it.
-As for hero weapons, they worth ~3 hero sets ever since titan was opened, it isn't really raising whatsoever, maybe slightly.
-Overall, i rather let newbies gear up faster and let them having some fun pking in hero set + bloodies (----> the community growing), Medal + csw belt + hero weapons are still making a HUGE different anyway among newbies and elder players.


If farming would be harder and they'd have to run around in selfnames - nexuses with tier weapons w/o medal and stuffs they'd quit right away.......

Valk set/parts is the most value item in game.

But i cant agree with you that they should remove Free Cwep/Bwep.
But hero should be removed.
There is so small chance to get them, so i vote no for it

If there was more spiders, and someway to farm C weapons i would vote yes

Just my opinion

I only agree with : Hero & valkyrie is same sh.t for now , Hero wepons cost to many hero sets on Market but is not Administrator decision ! "You guys make that price get highter "End you guys ned to lower"
End its realy nice Begginers full gear in 1 weak .All we want just have fun end get Mad
End yes chaos wepons are , its to easy to get , end for Asassin is one of best wepon end his price is s.it.
Its my opinion for now

you dn't want to pay 3hset or more for hero weapon, then wait for an event like the last month hero weapon= 150k nps, spend ur nps nd keep ur hero sets.

Market is okey, everything is farmeable, >>> valks from pus>>> its okay too.

If u look in game Hero sword is hero set + 2 c weapons.

In the other hand mages and priests and rogues keep usin c weapons all time.
I rarely see mages usin Hero staff


And in the end the gap of the market is so huge between chaos and heros , if u ask urself why u will know the answer.

Thats the point i want to make.

In the other hand about valyries , it really doesnt matter when they got added to the server to me , they got same stats if not , reduce the hero stats than , but make valk the best,But since it has same stats i dont see the point of it.

Cuz they are lame, Hero staff is the most OP thing ever, giving almost the same hp bonus as chaos staff, normally hitting exactly the same as chaos staff and at the same time if you want, you can equip a shield with it too and still being able to attack since it's 1 handed.
-About valkyries, every server need an item that only available at PUS to get them some income. It's the valkyrie here since everything else is kinda easily farmable. I rather have it like this, than having smth OP at pus so hardly any1 will be able to get it ingame, creating a big gap between oldies and newcomers and they will just leave.

1.About the Income , Im totally for it but income would b greater if u can get heros armors only in PUS (makin them easy to get - makes people not willing to donate even for valks)

2.If u to compare the prizes with the hero weapons , other seem to be MUCH cheaper ,I dont think its good for the server havin such a big gap between the best weapons in the ingame market.(but yet all can think what they want in this case)

My point in here is to close the gap a bit between the Hero weapons , and Chaos/bloody weapons in the ingame market.
A solution I thought was removin those 'extra' quests which give u the chance gettin geared so easy , than the best item gets also cheap when there is to many of them.(which is the case now with chaos/bloody)

3.About the newcommers in game , Doesnt mean there should be not other quests in game for them.
If some quests get removed , Im totally for it to add new quests in game (df'mythril-tier dark pfb etc)


I was myself a newcomer and I had it easy to farm items (too easy imo).If players are willing only to join bcos of items there are other ways of gettin them as u said, but gettin items too easy will mean for server also no income.

Some1 in the items you mentioned is like 3 hit would force newbies to leave before getting any decent items and pk, anyway i could write novels about it, but that won't change the fact that i prefer the corrent system alot more, than the 1 you want.

Good luck tho trying to convince others.

agree with my student!